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Charlemagne VS King Arthur by cabepfir Charlemagne VS King Arthur by cabepfir
The two grandfathers of Medieval Europe
King Arthur and Charlemagne are the founding figures at the origin of the two main cycles of epic/romance poetry, the Arturian cycle (or matter of Britain) and the Carolingian cycle (or matter of France.) The Carolingian cycle continued to be developed until the beginning of XVII century, producing masterpieces from the Song of Roland to the Orlando Furioso. The Arthurian cycle was rekindled during the XIX century and continues to present days; I'd like to see a similar attention for the Carolingian cycle.

King Arthur and Charlemagne playing chess was a very old idea of mine... dating back some three years at least. I finally did it for the Historical Characters series.

For the first time, I show you something I inked with a tablet! :)
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Monguin Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If any of you are Dungeons and Dragons fans, Charlemagne is where the term, Paladin came from. There was a legend called Charlemagne and the 12 Paladins, a French legend.
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cabepfir Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Erh... Charlemagne was a real king and he really did have knights at his service, called paladins (from Latin comes Palatinus "earl of the Palace", from Palatium Imperial court). It is not a legend. Roland's death at Roncevaux was then turned into a legend, but it started with an historical event.
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Monguin Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, that's kind of what legends are according to some people. They're stories based on actual events.
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cabepfir Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Your previous message seemed to imply that Charlemagne was a legend.
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Monguin Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I had little knowledge of the story. Thank you.
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cabepfir Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Charles (then called "magne" = the Great) became Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire around year 800 AD. It was the first time someone succeeded in recreating a European empire, although not as large as the Roman empire, but large enough to include France, Germany and a part of Italy. Charlemagne was a genius king who introduced lots of political and social renovations; his kingdom prompted a philosophical and cultural renaissance.

At the beginning of his rule, he fought for years agains the Moors (who, at that time, controlled Spain and other parts of Southern Europe.) He tried to invade Spain but was kicked out. During his retreat, his army was attacked by the Moors at Roncevaux, on the Pyrenees. Even if Charles passed safely, a part of his rearguard was crushed and many paladins were killed, among whom a paladin called Roland. The fact inspired the Song of Roland, which is one of the main epic poems of the Middle Ages.

From the Song of Roland onward, the matter of France (the cycle of stories about Charlemagne and his knights, while the matter of Britain was about king Arthur) was super famous in all Europe. Many many poems and novels were told and written about Roland and his companions. It was in fact, for a while, much more famous than the arthurian cycle. (That the arthurian cycle is more famous, now, depends from the fact that in XIX cent. Romantic poets and painters started an arthurian revival.) But consider that for centuries, until the end of XVI century at least, Roland was the protagonist of dozen of tales. Imagine him as the Superman of that time.

So yes, absolutely, the battle of Roncevaux was turned into a legend, and the fictional character of Roland bears little to no connection to the historical Roland beneath, but Charlemagne was absolutely a real and great king.
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Monguin Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you. I'll take it to an account. I need the influence. As you can see, I faved this picture in Sir Gabriel's Legacy folder. That same folder contains illustrations of classic Old Testament stories because of Sir Gabriel's influence.
Also, I have a DVD about Joan de Arc I could probably watch.
This is the picture of Sir Gabriel himself: monguin.deviantart.com/art/Sir…
monguin.deviantart.com/art/Ele…
He's more of a SPACE fantasy character, though, using a combination of divine influence and futuristic technology to hunt down his enemies. I'm currently working on his story inspired by scripture. He's the Spirit of Justice.
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ugtpwnd Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014
If only the matters of France (Song of Roland, Orlando Innamorato, and Orlando Furioso) were as popular as King Arthur.

I want my Bradamant fanart, dammit!
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cabepfir Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Indeed!

Who knows if I'll have the inspiration for a Bradamante fanart, but that's a cool idea!
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ugtpwnd Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014
Bradamante's definitely somebody you think would be more popular.

She's like a medieval Samus from Metroid.

(but without all that Other M bullshit).
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